What I Learned From Being Mentored By Alex Jeffreys

[…] and I have bought THOUSANDS of dollars worth of IM products. I’ve even been mentored by Alex Jeffreys, more money there. I’ve been around the internet marketing block for some time now and have […]

I took part in Alex Jeffrey?s first ever coaching program when it cost just $500.00. I got my money back by selling his next program which was $1000 and offered a 50% commission.

After a few people fell away there were many people who saw the program through, worked hard, but didn?t make a dime.

I offer high end mentoring but not in the I.M. space. I?m unsure Alex?s coaching helped me to do this, but it did get me focussed and help me understand the on-line coaching model because I was on the receiving end of it.

My wife runs an on-line therapy business which we built from scratch from a Mediterranean beach.

It?s not really possible to evaluate the quality of products on the basis of their price.

Some, such as Kam Jennings, will give you exceptional value for peanuts. Kam knows his market and understands what to offer them.

I?m currently testing Frank Kern?s Inner Circle. His market is different. Whilst I might do some things differently, Frank is really approachable on live calls and offers excellent value at a price.

If you?re just starting out in I.M. Kam is the better option.

I love his work, it’s just that I’m not really his market.

For someone like me, who sells and delivers services via the Internet, but only, briefly ever sold I.M. products to learn the ropes whilst being coached by Alex Jeffreys, almost all the information available must be reinterpreted for my market.

In many respects investing in coaching is really about committing to doing the work. Once you?ve put your hand in your pocket ?big-time? you?ll feel more obliged to follow through.

If you don?t come good your spouse will kill you!

One of the problems I have faced was pricing my services too low to be thought of as valuable by business owners with turnovers between $1,500,00 and $5,000,000.

My wife?s business has a different client group. There is a place for group work there. This is because individual therapy has a 1 -1 return on time. Group coaching is able to bring people facing common problems together to share and support each other, and also receive professional help. This results in a 1 – 8 return on time.

Not everyone has the skill to be a mentor, coach, or therapist. Remember Kam is a trained paramedic and although you cannot bandage anyone over the Internet he knows what it?s like both to suffer and work with those who are suffering.

My own training involves stints in various hospitals and counselling agencies including London University?s prestigious Institute of Psychiatry. This remains useful experience because successful business owners are prone to family and relationship problems that can bring down their enterprises.

It also helps to know how large organisations operate because as businesses grow they place new, and greater, challenges upon their owners.

Alex continues to e-mail me with his latest offerings. I took a look at the websites of people who recently were featured in one of his courses. Anyone can do this research and draw their own conclusions.

Great post Phil and I’m sure this resonates with a lot of people. Like Steven Lucas, I also know of a mentor who is very accessible and is even willing to speak to product sellers to get affiliate authorisation for their students. Otherwise it can be almost impossible to to get approval if you have no sales record.

But like Cholita says, it’s an accountability exercise. As we all know, most, if not all, of the information you need is freely available on the Internet but it can be a daunting task to sort the wheat from the chaff. So having a mentor can give you that confidence boost that we are so often lacking.

But the bottom line is that being a mentor is a business and, like all businessmen, mentors want to achieve the best return. And so we, the client, have to be aware that to some extent we are a commodity. If we feel we’re getting value for money then it’s a good deal. Personally I always felt that AJ ran something of a cookie-cutter program with a lot of extra filling in his videos and I wouldn’t want to pay his prices to wade through his material.

great post Philip, I paid for a mentor years back. that got me some experience but no sales..

it took time and effort before i started steadily selling online. (aff products and my own)

So much of it depends on how you get with the mentor and what really gets offered in return. I know of one guy who accepts personal emails and offers his students extreme amounts of help – even to the point of calling the affiliate provider, to get assistance for a student’s product launch.

I will admit that I find AJ long winded and repetitive at times – one reason I stopped attending his 2 hour long webinars is that the first hour was always his back story and the rest was the same information 3 or 4 times, but as you say, some people need the repetition to be able to take it all in and retain it. As a hypnotist I know that repetition works, repetition works, repetition works.

Brilliant article though and very honest. I’m sure you’ll follow it all up once you’ve done your time and I wish you all the success when you get round to your launch.

I think coaching programs are nothing more than a highly paid accountability partnership. You pay a guru $1,000 and up, then they tell you stuff you already know, you get those things done, and Walla! The guru now has a testimonial (from those who have succeeded) to sell the next sucka… I mean, prospect into giving him $x,xxx

I know because I signed up to a $500 coaching program where the guru showed us how to make six figures a year with email marketing. The instruction this guy gave us was pretty much identical to the past $7 courses I had purchased from him. At any rate, I did what he told me to do and to make a long story short, yes I have made the money I paid this guy back. And then some.

I’m nowhere near six figures but I’m happy with my results. What I really learned was that even though I already knew the stuff this guru coached us to do, it wasn’t until I put up the $500 that I really started to make things happen. Hence, the high priced accountability partner! =P

Nice post BTW Phil.

great article Phillip Lopez!

Hi Phil, a lot of what your saying has rang very true with me also, like you I have found the technical side of it very daunting but l am really interested in learning what I can as I don’t have the money to pay other people to do it for me. I never had a product before I started as I am something of a newbie but I’m just getting to that stage in my 3rd month with Alex, so I am hoping I can do this because I am totally broke as I only receive Employment support due to an accident at work about 3 years ago and haven’t been able to work since, that’s why this is looked like a good fit for me. I just have to knuckle down and learn as much as I can because I think this will be my last chance to help and support my family. Good luck Phillip I hope you get everything you’ve worked hard for.

Hi Phil,

I didn’t go thru the full experience with AJ, but did buy a product when I first looked at IM.

The unfulfilled promise and scant detail sounded off alarm bells in my head so I did some digging including accessing UK companies house for details of trading position, registered office etc.

This could just be me, but there seemed to be an incongruity in the success teasers made when entering AJ sales funnel and the actually reality of the operation.

The whole thing smacked of a hyped direct sales operation to me and that was enough for me to stop there and then.

I do get some offers in my mailbox from AJ affiliates wanting to introduce me to his latest offering and I sometimes do watch some of his sales video’s as he is a great salesman, but take what is presented with a pinch of salt 😉